Apple: February 2008

Friday, February 29, 2008

[applekeynote] Presenter screen hangs

Greetings

I've just returned home after giving a presentation. During the
presentation the presenter's view stopped working. The clocks were
stopped and the slides didn't change.

The actual slides were OK on the external display so I could keep
going and the audience was none the wiser.

Is this common?

I'm running KeyNote 4.0.2 on Leopard 10.5.2 with all updates applied
on a MacBook Air with the VGA adapter. I wasn't using a remote control
or anything fancy. Just the Air and Keynote. No other applications
were running. The presentation was very simple with no video. Just
text and images with some transitions and builds.

Thanks

Anthony Caruana
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[Apple iPod] Updating iTouch

I hooked up my iTouch to my notebook to sync some music. Got a message
telling me that Updates were available. So, I click ok and it took
about 1.5 hrs to download the upgrades and then ...it started to
upgrade my iTouch. Then...everything froze. The notebook as well as
the iTouch. So, I called the local Apple Store and was told I would
need to restore my iTouch. Grrr!! Any idea why this may have
occurred? Now ...I'm worried what will happen when I try that upgrade
again.

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[Apple iPod] another part on transferring DVD to iPod

Thank you for all of your pointers on my previous dilemna. I have
tried to get Handbrake. It won't work with panther. I tried iSquint
and it's not wanting to accept the DVD information. It says that it
doesn't understand the file. It says if you want to accept it but I do
not know if it means that in-time, it will work. Is there a manual on
iSquint? Or if there is anyone out there, please walk me through with
the steps if they have successfuly did it.
Thanks

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[Apple iPod] Frozen Nano - Help!!

My 2g Nano (old guy) is frozen _on_ at song #29 of 34
on a playlist. It shows 2.44 minutes played. The
wheel will not move. It won't turn off
or get anything else on the menu. I have no idea how
to reset it. I guess eventually the battery will die,
but it was just fully recharged yesterday.

Is it a lost cause? I have an 80g Classic but I use
the Nano when I ride my horse. I rode with it today
and it worked fine until I dismounted and tried to
turn it off. I have ridden with it for well over a
year.

Euel

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Re: [Apple iPod] Re: Adding Video Flies Into iTunes

I hear that Handbrake is the one to go for.
http://handbrake.fr/?article=download

Otto

On 29/02/2008, Brian <Fbrianfo@aol.com> wrote:
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> any help would really be appreciated.

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Re: [Apple iPod] iTouch - enthusiasm

On Feb 29, 2008, at 9:19 AM, art almeida wrote:

> My friend has one and she loves it. It's great for photo storage -
> and the resolution seems
> quite sharp. She loves iTunes and looking at album covers. The WiFi
> feature works quite well.
> We were lost on a trip to CT and we just pulled into a Mall parking
> lot and picked up a WiFi signal
> and mapquested our way out. She likes being able to read Web pages
> and check Yahoo Mail and all that
> other good stuff. Go to an Apple Store and play with one - you'll
> come away excited. When they
> get the 64 gig version, I'll be first in line......
>
> and if, for some reason, you don't like it you can just list it on
> eBay and get nearly what you paid for it!

About the only thing that could be done to make the ipod touch even
better would be to add voiceover (the mac os x screen reader). I love
the touches though I can't seem to raise enough cash to buy one (and
my 30gb ipod video just keeps getting older and worth less money. Oh
well.
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Re: [Apple iPod] Re: transfering my DVDs to my iPod

because i love handbrake.....
http://handbrake.fr/
cheers =^)
~~~KM
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On Feb 27, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Lonnie Whelan wrote:

> --- In AppleiPod@yahoogroups.com, "macman1604" <macman1604@...> wrote:
> >
> > If it is OK to transfer my CDs to my iPod, how can I have my DVDs
> > placed on my iPod as well. I have a Mac (best computer in the world)
> > with Panther on it. I am just learning what can be capable with my
> > iPod. Also, I would like to learn all the cool stuff that can be
> done
> > with it. I have a black 30gig (i have to be careful how this
> sentence
> > is displaying)Can anyone help me?
> >
> Download a program called "Handbrake". It's free and you can find
> it easily with a Google search.
> It will convert your DVD movie to a file that you can put in
> Itunes and then sync your Ipod. It's very easy to use (I left all
> settings in their default mode) but be aware; it will take 3 hours or
> more to convert just one movie. I start mine before I go to bed.

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Re: [Apple iPod] Unable to download Shape.com music playlists

guessing
playlists are usually .m3u files, maybe change the extension to
that??????
~KM
Any powerful idea is absolutely fascinating and absolutely useless
until we choose to use it.

On Feb 29, 2008, at 8:31 AM, allensls wrote:

> When I try to download playlists from Shape.com/playlists I run into a
> problem. After clicking on the link, my laptop (WinXP) pops up File
> Download Security Warning box. It names the File: browserRedirect;
> Type: Unknown File Type; From: ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net.
> I can either Find or Save. If I click Find, Windows eventually tells
> me
> it can't find an application to run the file; if I click Save, I can
> save the file but am never able to open it because I don't have an
> application to run it. What am I doing/not doing? I figure this has to
> be a no-brainer and I am really frustrated. Thanks in advance for any
> help.

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[Apple iPod] Unable to download Shape.com music playlists

When I try to download playlists from Shape.com/playlists I run into a
problem. After clicking on the link, my laptop (WinXP) pops up File
Download Security Warning box. It names the File: browserRedirect;
Type: Unknown File Type; From: ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net.
I can either Find or Save. If I click Find, Windows eventually tells me
it can't find an application to run the file; if I click Save, I can
save the file but am never able to open it because I don't have an
application to run it. What am I doing/not doing? I figure this has to
be a no-brainer and I am really frustrated. Thanks in advance for any
help.

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Re: [Apple iPod] Adding Video Flies Into iTunes.

just drag and drop onto itunes, it'll organize automagically.
~KM
First, what is it you want us to pay taxes for? Tell me what I get and
perhaps I'll buy it.
-Manuel O'Kelly, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

On Feb 28, 2008, at 9:58 AM, Brian wrote:

> Now I'm afraid that I'm back again!! asking for help to do the same
> with my VIDEO files.
>
> These files are either music videos or short dance demos and have all
> been converted to MP4 files.
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> Do all of these files have to be "tagged" just like the MP3's? i.e.
> via "Get Info"? If so, how much info to enter?
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> Which folder do they go into in the Library - Music or Video?
>
> Many thanks for your patience, really appreciate your help.

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[Apple iPod] Re: Adding Video Flies Into iTunes

any help would really be appreciated.

thanks,
Brian

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Re: [Apple iPod] iPod Touch

Levi,

You are right, but I'd go further and say that it almost certainly means
that it *can* play DivX/Xvid.
;)
Otto

On 29/02/2008, Levi Wallach <levi@dvdmon.com> wrote:
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> Yes, I know all this, but the fact that it can play AVI's also means that
> there's the POTENTIAL to play the codecs (like dvix and xvid) that currently
> only work (or at least are most often seen) within the AVI (vs. MOV)
> container...

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[Apple iPod] iTouch - enthusiasm

My friend has one and she loves it. It's great for photo storage - and the resolution seems
quite sharp. She loves iTunes and looking at album covers. The WiFi feature works quite well.
We were lost on a trip to CT and we just pulled into a Mall parking lot and picked up a WiFi signal
and mapquested our way out. She likes being able to read Web pages and check Yahoo Mail and all that
other good stuff. Go to an Apple Store and play with one - you'll come away excited. When they
get the 64 gig version, I'll be first in line......

and if, for some reason, you don't like it you can just list it on eBay and get nearly what you paid for it!

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RE: [Apple iPod] iPod Touch

Yes, I know all this, but the fact that it can play AVI's also means that there's the POTENTIAL to play the codecs (like dvix and xvid) that currently only work (or at least are most often seen) within the AVI (vs. MOV) container...

Levi

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From: AppleiPod@yahoogroups.com [AppleiPod@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Otto Nikolaus [otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [Apple iPod] iPod Touch

There is some confusion here. AVI is *not* a codec. It is a "container"
format that can contain just about any audio/video content.

The most common use of the .avi filename extension is for video torrents,
which mostly (always?) use the DivX/Xvid codec.

IOW avi = DivX/Xvid in practice.

Otto
PS I'd bet that in a year's time, 64 GB flash will cost what 32 does now.

On 29/02/2008, Levi Wallach <levi@dvdmon.com> wrote:
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> Wow, that's great to know about the third-party video player. I wonder if
> it will play Dvix and Xvid video? That has been one of my biggest
> complaints about the iPod - that you are stuck to just the formats Apple
> wants you to have, whereas most other players out there can boast of a
> zillion different format options. If the more open application environment
> of the Touch (and iPhone) removes that limitation, I might have to seriously
> think about an iTouch. If they can get the thing up to 64GB without making
> it even more pricey, that might be the thing that pushes me to buy....

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Re: [Apple iPod] iPod Touch

9 months, max
~~KM
There is in all things a pattern that is part of our universe. It has
symmetry, elegance, and grace--those qualities you find always in
that which the true artist captures. You can find it in the turning
of the seasons, in the way sand trails along a ridge, in the branch
clusters of the creosote bush or the pattern of its leaves. We try
to copy these patterns in our lives and our society, seeking the
rhythms, the dances, the forms that comfort. Yet, it is possible to
see peril in the finding of ultimate perfection. It is clear that
the ultimate pattern contains its own fixity. In such perfection,
all things move towards death

On Feb 29, 2008, at 6:41 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> Otto
> PS I'd bet that in a year's time, 64 GB flash will cost what 32 does
> now.

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Re: [Apple iPod] iPod Touch

There is some confusion here. AVI is *not* a codec. It is a "container"
format that can contain just about any audio/video content.

The most common use of the .avi filename extension is for video torrents,
which mostly (always?) use the DivX/Xvid codec.

IOW avi = DivX/Xvid in practice.

Otto
PS I'd bet that in a year's time, 64 GB flash will cost what 32 does now.

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Re: [Apple iPod] iPod Touch

I love my iTouch. The only thing that it a bit hard go me, is when I
wear it on my arm to workout. The strap.....hurts, BUT...that'st the
strap...not the iTouch's fault. BTW...this is my first MP3 so, I
can't compare to others. I wanted it so I can watch movies while in
the waiting rooms, or at nite while camping....while I lay in bed.
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Re: [Apple iPod] iPod Touch

I ordered my 16 gig Touch the instant I could get into the online
store the day Steve made the announcement. I have never regretted the
purchase. Yes, I have all my photos on it and they look beautiful. I
also enjoy watching television shows I've purchased from the iTunes
Store on my lunch break. I don't really use mine for mail, stocks or
maps, though I did purchase the apps in January.

Battery life is shorter than my other iPods, especially if I leave
WiFi on. Go for the 32 gig and have fun!

On Feb 29, 2008, at 3:35 AM, Jules wrote:

> I have and 80 GB iPod and love it, Only had it for six months and am
> completely sold on it. My wife wanted something to look at her photos
> on so I got her a 160GB Archos but we hated it and returned it. The
> color was rubbish and browsing not much good either as well as being
> quite large. So not the iPod Touch is out this looks like wheat we
> want.
> I scoured this forum and there are NO posts from anyone being in the
> slightest bit excited about what looks like a great, fun product. Just
> a question or two about the calender or whatever.
> Can anyone who has got one inject a bit of enthusiasm into this
> product? And inspire me to buy one. Are there any drawbacks or is it
> just good? Dp let me know. I'm looking at the 32GB model as you can
> never have enough storage.
> Jules
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RE: [Apple iPod] iPod Touch

Wow, that's great to know about the third-party video player. I wonder if it will play Dvix and Xvid video? That has been one of my biggest complaints about the iPod - that you are stuck to just the formats Apple wants you to have, whereas most other players out there can boast of a zillion different format options. If the more open application environment of the Touch (and iPhone) removes that limitation, I might have to seriously think about an iTouch. If they can get the thing up to 64GB without making it even more pricey, that might be the thing that pushes me to buy....

Levi

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Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 7:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [Apple iPod] iPod Touch

Jules,

Like you I¹m was looking into the Touch and was expecting it to replace my
80GB Archos. My son is visiting us right now and he brought with him his
16gb iPod Touch. For me this was perfect because I could spend
considerable time exploring it.

After a day of playing with it, I have determined it if far superior to my
30gb iPod (very old version). I¹m not convinced the video player is better.
In fact, I think the video player (and photo viewer) is considerably worse
than the Archos. I have decided to keep my Archos until I find something
better, but the touch is not it.

On the good side, one of my concerns was that the Touch required you to
convert all the video files to the iPod format. That IS NOT TRUE. My son
added a 3rd party player (from memory it is Visual Hub) and it plays AVI
files just fine, without conversion.

Good luck in your search..

Wade

On 2/29/08 2:35 AM, "Jules" <jules50uk@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
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>
>
> I have and 80 GB iPod and love it, Only had it for six months and am
> completely sold on it. My wife wanted something to look at her photos
> on so I got her a 160GB Archos but we hated it and returned it. The
> color was rubbish and browsing not much good either as well as being
> quite large. So not the iPod Touch is out this looks like wheat we want.
> I scoured this forum and there are NO posts from anyone being in the
> slightest bit excited about what looks like a great, fun product. Just
> a question or two about the calender or whatever.
> Can anyone who has got one inject a bit of enthusiasm into this
> product? And inspire me to buy one. Are there any drawbacks or is it
> just good? Dp let me know. I'm looking at the 32GB model as you can
> never have enough storage.
> Jules
>
>
>

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Re: [Apple iPod] iPod Touch

Jules,

Good luck in your search..

Wade

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RE: [Apple iPod] iPod Touch

Jules, you might want to look around. There are more devices out there than just the iPod touch and the Archos! I don't have the touch, but have seen it and it does have nice display features for photos, but I haven't compared the display against competing devices. Perhaps someone online has. What was "rubbish" about the Archos? Was it the user interface, the display, or something else? Also, if your wife is just going to use it for images, the 32GB model might be overkill. I'm not sure about the touch, but on my regular iPod, it converts all images you have down to a 100k, so a 32gb model would be able to store 320,000 of these. Does she really need that much capacity, or will she be using it for music, audio books, and/or video as well? As Otto mentioned, the touch is flash-based, so comparatively the memory is expensive. The other devices out there should be cheaper and hold more, and they also won't force you to convert all your images in order to put them on the device. But they will be bigger...

Levi

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> I have and 80 GB iPod and love it, Only had it for six months and am
> completely sold on it. My wife wanted something to look at her photos
> on so I got her a 160GB Archos but we hated it and returned it. The
> color was rubbish and browsing not much good either as well as being
> quite large. So not the iPod Touch is out this looks like wheat we
> want.
> I scoured this forum and there are NO posts from anyone being in the
> slightest bit excited about what looks like a great, fun product. Just
> a question or two about the calender or whatever.
> Can anyone who has got one inject a bit of enthusiasm into this
> product? And inspire me to buy one. Are there any drawbacks or is it
> just good? Dp let me know. I'm looking at the 32GB model as you can
> never have enough storage.
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Re: [Apple iPod] iPod Touch

I don't own one, so this is just from what I've read.

The Touch is much more expensive per GB because it uses flash memory. You
know that already of course.

You cannot (yet?) use Disk Mode on the Touch. It means that you can only
load files onto it using iTunes. I can't quite believe that a device that
looks like the ideal pocket file viewer is restricted in this way.

Otto

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> I have and 80 GB iPod and love it, Only had it for six months and am
> completely sold on it. My wife wanted something to look at her photos
> on so I got her a 160GB Archos but we hated it and returned it. The
> color was rubbish and browsing not much good either as well as being
> quite large. So not the iPod Touch is out this looks like wheat we want.
> I scoured this forum and there are NO posts from anyone being in the
> slightest bit excited about what looks like a great, fun product. Just
> a question or two about the calender or whatever.
> Can anyone who has got one inject a bit of enthusiasm into this
> product? And inspire me to buy one. Are there any drawbacks or is it
> just good? Dp let me know. I'm looking at the 32GB model as you can
> never have enough storage.

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[Apple iPod] iPod Touch

I have and 80 GB iPod and love it, Only had it for six months and am
completely sold on it. My wife wanted something to look at her photos
on so I got her a 160GB Archos but we hated it and returned it. The
color was rubbish and browsing not much good either as well as being
quite large. So not the iPod Touch is out this looks like wheat we want.
I scoured this forum and there are NO posts from anyone being in the
slightest bit excited about what looks like a great, fun product. Just
a question or two about the calender or whatever.
Can anyone who has got one inject a bit of enthusiasm into this
product? And inspire me to buy one. Are there any drawbacks or is it
just good? Dp let me know. I'm looking at the 32GB model as you can
never have enough storage.
Jules

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Thursday, February 28, 2008

Re: [Apple iPod] Converting mp4/mv4 files to DVD (mpg) Formet

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 07:49:36PM CST, Just Murray <lists@jm-publishing.com> wrote:
> On Feb 28, 2008, at 8:55 AM, aljon5 wrote:
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> > Can anyone recommend any (conversion type) programs which will QUICKLY
> > convert mp4/mv4 video files to a (recordable) format I can use in a
> > DVD player?
>
> i think roxio toast is cross compatible try that.
> http://www.roxio.com/

How about importing your MP4 into iMovie, then sending it
over to iDVD to do the burns?

--
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Re: [Apple iPod] Converting mp4/mv4 files to DVD (mpg) Formet

i think roxio toast is cross compatible try that.
http://www.roxio.com/
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have to experience it. -- Max Frisch

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> DVD player?

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[Apple iPod] Adding Video Flies Into iTunes.

Thanks to a lot of help from many very patient people in the group I
have now succesfully added all of my MP3 music files into the "Music"
folder in the iTunes library.

Now I'm afraid that I'm back again!! asking for help to do the same
with my VIDEO files.

These files are either music videos or short dance demos and have all
been converted to MP4 files.

Do all of these files have to be "tagged" just like the MP3's? i.e.
via "Get Info"? If so, how much info to enter?

Which folder do they go into in the Library - Music or Video?

Many thanks for your patience, really appreciate your help.

Brian

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[Apple iPod] Re: photo's

Haven't use a PC in years but this is how it's done on a Mac.

Make sure that you can put Photos on your iPod.

Open iTunes and plug in the iPod. Click on the iPod in iTunes and a window comes up.
Find Photos and click on it.

You must have a folder of your jpeg files ready to access on your computer in a folder.
My Folder is called iPod Photos.

Sync from that folder all of the photos in that folder. Include full res photos.

Look for sync on the lower left and click Sync.

Frank

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> Hi guy's , can anyone tell me how to putn photo's onto my ipod (160gb
> classic ) i'm using windows xp , thanks ,
>
> Robert
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[Apple iPod] Converting mp4/mv4 files to DVD (mpg) Formet

Can anyone recommend any (conversion type) programs which will QUICKLY
convert mp4/mv4 video files to a (recordable) format I can use in a
DVD player?

I tried a "trial" version of a program called SuperAVConverter but it
took forever (at 13-hours it had only "converted" about 39% of an
800MB mp4 movie) and then it "crashed" before completion.

I don't think that the DVD2iPod programs offer the reverse conversion
function; but perhaps they do.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

John

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008

Re: [Apple iPod] transfering my DVDs to my iPod

On Feb 26, 2008, at 6:29 PM, macman1604 wrote:

> If it is OK to transfer my CDs to my iPod, how can I have my DVDs
> placed on my iPod as well. I have a Mac (best computer in the world)
> with Panther on it. I am just learning what can be capable with my
> iPod. Also, I would like to learn all the cool stuff that can be done
> with it. I have a black 30gig (i have to be careful how this sentence
> is displaying)Can anyone help me?

If you want to put dvd's on an ipod, you'll need to look for a program
called iSquint. Check to make sure it'll run on Panther (I'm pretty
sure it will). You convert the dvd into a movie then you can add it
to iTunes just like you do with music.

HTH

Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
Pete Nalda

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[Apple iPod] Re: transfering my DVDs to my iPod

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> If it is OK to transfer my CDs to my iPod, how can I have my DVDs
> placed on my iPod as well. I have a Mac (best computer in the world)
> with Panther on it. I am just learning what can be capable with my
> iPod. Also, I would like to learn all the cool stuff that can be done
> with it. I have a black 30gig (i have to be careful how this sentence
> is displaying)Can anyone help me?
>
Download a program called "Handbrake". It's free and you can find
it easily with a Google search.
It will convert your DVD movie to a file that you can put in
Itunes and then sync your Ipod. It's very easy to use (I left all
settings in their default mode) but be aware; it will take 3 hours or
more to convert just one movie. I start mine before I go to bed.

Lonnie

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Re: [Apple iPod] can iTunes deal with multiple units?

Yes... My wife and I have four iPods between the two of us.

Wade

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I'm just about sold on buying an iPod, in fact I'm thinking about
buying two--a Classic and a Shuffle. But can the same iTunes program on
the same computer deal with two independent units?

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[applekeynote] Re: Question for Les: Abandon 6 x 6 rule?

--- In applekeynote@yahoogroups.com, "Don Kraig" <don@...> wrote:
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> Hi, Les.
>
> Years ago, in a pre-KN world, I taught PowerPoint to university students. Most of the
class
> was on technical aspects so they could simply use the application, but we also gave a
bit of
> design advice.
>
I think the more interesting challenge is to eschew the entire idea of "lines" altogether.

Awhile ago I was informing someone that most of what you can do with bullets can likely
be done better with a table. The presentation was about amusement machines an they
were comparing a "spider" to an "octopus" using two bulleted lists. I was able to divine
the real meaning of each of the items (to use for the table headers) and turned a boring
texty slide to one that drove home the main points effectively AND was more visually
pleasing.

> On of the things we suggested was a "general rule" (i.e., try to follow it most of the
time)
> known as the "6 x 6 rule": Limit text on a slide to no more than 6 lines and no more
than 6
> words per line.
>
> While I would contend that for a boring, dull, PP-hell type of business presentation
where
> the information on the screen might better be given in hand-outs, I've moved on to a
post-
> PP, KeyNote universe. Thanks to advanced thinking such as presented by you and
others, I
> now sort of cringe at slides that are nothing but a maximum of 6 x 6 text.
>
> So my question to you is, considering this post-PP world, should the "6 x 6 rule" be
> abandoned along with Windows 3.1?
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[Apple iPod] The Apple Store

I just wanted to share my experience at the Apple Store with this
group. I did not realize they did training in the store, but the
other day while on line, I found that I could register for the iPOd
and iTunes one hour workshop.

While this group has been great at answering questions, the workshop
at the Apple Store was great for telling me what I did not know. This
is my third iPod over many years and the tech at the store was able to
show me things I could do with the iPod and my iTunes.

Of course they aroused my curiousity to purchase a new touch, but that
will have to wait.

I recommend to anyone, if you live near an Apple store, go to iPod and
iTunes training at least once.
Hank

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Re: [applekeynote] Question for Les: Abandon 6 x 6 rule?

Don et al,

If you watch the Macworld presentation, I address the 6 x 6 rule, and it's big brother, the 7 x7 rule, and basically point out, in rather dramatic fashion, where these rules came from.

To some extent, they are a hangover from overhead projector days, which powerpoint (or originally, Forethought) was designed on the Mac to support via black and white transparencies for laserwriters.

You may now officially abandon these rules. The Emperor indeed has no clothes.

Les

On 28/02/2008, at 3:37 AM, Don Kraig wrote:

Hi, Les.

Years ago, in a pre-KN world, I taught PowerPoint to university students. Most of the class
was on technical aspects so they could simply use the application, but we also gave a bit of
design advice.

On of the things we suggested was a "general rule" (i.e., try to follow it most of the time)
known as the "6 x 6 rule": Limit text on a slide to no more than 6 lines and no more than 6
words per line.

While I would contend that for a boring, dull, PP-hell type of business presentation where
the information on the screen might better be given in hand-outs, I've moved on to a post-
PP, KeyNote universe. Thanks to advanced thinking such as presented by you and others, I
now sort of cringe at slides that are nothing but a maximum of 6 x 6 text.

So my question to you is, considering this post-PP world, should the "6 x 6 rule" be
abandoned along with Windows 3.1?

Thanks for your comments.

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[applekeynote] Question for Les: Abandon 6 x 6 rule?

Hi, Les.

Years ago, in a pre-KN world, I taught PowerPoint to university students. Most of the class
was on technical aspects so they could simply use the application, but we also gave a bit of
design advice.

On of the things we suggested was a "general rule" (i.e., try to follow it most of the time)
known as the "6 x 6 rule": Limit text on a slide to no more than 6 lines and no more than 6
words per line.

While I would contend that for a boring, dull, PP-hell type of business presentation where
the information on the screen might better be given in hand-outs, I've moved on to a post-
PP, KeyNote universe. Thanks to advanced thinking such as presented by you and others, I
now sort of cringe at slides that are nothing but a maximum of 6 x 6 text.

So my question to you is, considering this post-PP world, should the "6 x 6 rule" be
abandoned along with Windows 3.1?

Thanks for your comments.

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Re: [Apple iPod] can iTunes deal with multiple units?

My spouse and I made up different libraries on our laptop because of this issue. We
accidentally hooked his iPod up to my library one day. Then, iTunes wanted to know
what to do since it was not connected to the "proper" library. It works for us.
Ruth

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> Yes. The same iTunes can deal with any number (there must a limit but I've
> never heard what it is) of iPods, each with its own prefs and playlists (or
> the same ones if you like!).
>
> Otto
>
> On 27/02/2008, jdk77550 <jdk77550@...> wrote:
> >
> > I'm just about sold on buying an iPod, in fact I'm thinking about
> > buying two--a Classic and a Shuffle. But can the same iTunes program on
> > the same computer deal with two independent units?
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Apple iPod] can iTunes deal with multiple units?

Yes. The same iTunes can deal with any number (there must a limit but I've
never heard what it is) of iPods, each with its own prefs and playlists (or
the same ones if you like!).

Otto

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> the same computer deal with two independent units?

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[applekeynote] Flowed text in Keynote

I just uploaded another tutorial presentation to the Files area. It goes along with a tip I
posted awhile back.

http://www.keynoteuser.com/news/?p=180

I needed a pointer, so I created one using shapes. The inner and outer shapes are grouped,
but are separate shapes. So, you can use them together in the classic way, or separate them,
change colors, etc.

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008

Re: [Apple iPod] Using the ipod via drag and dropping folders on to it.

I think I remember it available in my own use of
window 3x a bit later than you say you started
with Macs. I was using but did not personally own
a computer until the late 80's and then it was
used equipment. The first IBM clone I could
afford (and that was a joke, I couldn't afford it
very easily) was in 1991.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag-and-drop

Elaine

> was drag and drop always a feature of windows?
> i ask because i dont know. it seem sinsce the
> mid 80s thats all i have
> used on macs

> ~KM
> "Republicans believe every day is 4th of July, but Democrats believe
> every day is April 15." ~Ronald Reagan

> On Feb 26, 2008, at 8:37 AM, ETM wrote:

>> Yes, that's precisely what I meant.
>>
>> PC users. Wasn't the person asking a PC user?
>> Didn't the person say they didn't want to use
>> iTunes if possible?
>>
>> Elaine
>>

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[Apple iPod] can iTunes deal with multiple units?

I'm just about sold on buying an iPod, in fact I'm thinking about
buying two--a Classic and a Shuffle. But can the same iTunes program on
the same computer deal with two independent units?

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[applekeynote] Re: ...and how to use Keynote badly (but think you're cool)

Oh wow! Enough text yet? :)
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> http://www.slideshare.net/bps75/future-web-trends-193809/
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> A stack of future web trends...
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[Apple iPod] transfering my DVDs to my iPod

If it is OK to transfer my CDs to my iPod, how can I have my DVDs
placed on my iPod as well. I have a Mac (best computer in the world)
with Panther on it. I am just learning what can be capable with my
iPod. Also, I would like to learn all the cool stuff that can be done
with it. I have a black 30gig (i have to be careful how this sentence
is displaying)Can anyone help me?

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[Apple iPod] photo's

Hi guy's , can anyone tell me how to putn photo's onto my ipod (160gb
classic ) i'm using windows xp , thanks ,

Robert

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Re: [Apple iPod] Using the ipod via drag and dropping folders on to it.

was drag and drop always a feature of windows?
i ask because i dont know. it seem sinsce the mid 80s thats all i have
used on macs

~KM
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every day is April 15." ~Ronald Reagan

On Feb 26, 2008, at 8:37 AM, ETM wrote:

> Yes, that's precisely what I meant.
>
> PC users. Wasn't the person asking a PC user?
> Didn't the person say they didn't want to use
> iTunes if possible?
>
> Elaine
>
> Any fool can make a rule, and any fool will
> mind it. --Henry David Thoreau
>
> Hello Just
>
> On Tuesday, February 26, 2008, you wrote
>
> > you mean "PC users like..." because i have been a computer user
> since
> > about 81 and i prefer itunes over drag and
> > drop, although i use drag
> > and drop to create playlists on itunes which i then sync to my ipod.
> > and itunes automagically creates Artist
> > Name\album\Trackname.mp3 sort
> > of file structure for me :)
> > ~km
> > Save the whales!
> > Trade them for valuable prizes.
>
> > On Feb 25, 2008, at 8:12 AM, ETM wrote:
>
> >> Computer users like drag/drop but it isn't going
> >> to work with an iPod. So I gave up the real
> >> estate and let iTunes/QuickTime reside on my
> >> computers (both MacBook and Dell Vista).
>
>
>
>

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Re: [Apple iPod] Using the ipod via drag and dropping folders on to it.

Yes, that's precisely what I meant.

PC users. Wasn't the person asking a PC user?
Didn't the person say they didn't want to use
iTunes if possible?

Elaine

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mind it. --Henry David Thoreau

Hello Just

On Tuesday, February 26, 2008, you wrote

> you mean "PC users like..." because i have been a computer user since
> about 81 and i prefer itunes over drag and
> drop, although i use drag
> and drop to create playlists on itunes which i then sync to my ipod.
> and itunes automagically creates Artist
> Name\album\Trackname.mp3 sort
> of file structure for me :)
> ~km
> Save the whales!
> Trade them for valuable prizes.

> On Feb 25, 2008, at 8:12 AM, ETM wrote:

>> Computer users like drag/drop but it isn't going
>> to work with an iPod. So I gave up the real
>> estate and let iTunes/QuickTime reside on my
>> computers (both MacBook and Dell Vista).

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Re: [Apple iPod] Using the ipod via drag and dropping folders on to it.

you mean "PC users like..." because i have been a computer user since
about 81 and i prefer itunes over drag and drop, although i use drag
and drop to create playlists on itunes which i then sync to my ipod.
and itunes automagically creates Artist Name\album\Trackname.mp3 sort
of file structure for me :)
~km
Save the whales!
Trade them for valuable prizes.

On Feb 25, 2008, at 8:12 AM, ETM wrote:

> Computer users like drag/drop but it isn't going
> to work with an iPod. So I gave up the real
> estate and let iTunes/QuickTime reside on my
> computers (both MacBook and Dell Vista).

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Monday, February 25, 2008

Re: [Apple iPod] Using the ipod via drag and dropping folders on to it.

I've given in to it.

Computer users like drag/drop but it isn't going
to work with an iPod. So I gave up the real
estate and let iTunes/QuickTime reside on my
computers (both MacBook and Dell Vista).

Do you have family or friends that could show you
how their iTunes and iPod work? Sometimes seeing
it hands-on takes away the scariness of the
program.

Elaine

Laughter is the closest distance between two
people. --Victor Borge

Hello craftaddict

On Monday, February 25, 2008, you wrote

> and that is why I keep looking at ipods with envy but have not yet
> bought one :-))
>>> My question is...without using iTunes software on the PC, can I plug
>>> in
>>> the ipod, have it set to "enable disk use", and simply drag and drop
>>> from my PC's music folder onto the ipod? And then when I start the
>>> ipod, will it work :0)
>>>
>>
>> No.
>>
>>

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Re: [Apple iPod] Using the ipod via drag and dropping folders on to it.

On 25/02/2008, Kirk McElhearn <kirkmc@mac.com> wrote:

>
> On Feb 25, 2008, at 1:44 PM, craftaddict :-) wrote:
>
> > if you can figure out how to use Itunes which I never
> > have............ lol
>
> Tens of millions have figured it out; it's really quite simple, and
> Apple has excellent tutorials on their web site.

The problem, as we often see in this forum, is that many people seem to
"overthink" it.

iTunes was designed to manage music and to provide an interface with the
iPod. It does this very well indeed and far more quickly than anyone could
do it manually.

Otto

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